Kristof Van Tomme
2009-03-06 20:44:18 UTC
Hi,
on the 27th of March I'm having my first Drupal introduction class for
this semester here at the unie. We'll have approximately 15-25
students (it's a extra course, some students don't show up).
We'll have 6 people with Drupal experience mentoring them. We did a
low level check on the students so most of them know some PHP, HTML
and CSS, and we give them a basic introduction into Drupal on 27/3 and
3/4.
These students have to do a Drupal web development project to get
their credits, so I was thinking that at least part of them we could
have working on a couple of first iterations for the Drupal Dojo. Not
all of us would be working on the Dojo, but I can imagine 2-4 groups
doing consecutive SCRUM iterations (maybe on 3 consecutive weekends).
We could work from the spec at
http://groups.drupal.org/open-learning-and-collaboration-portal
The mentors probably could function as SCRUM masters, and maybe come
together with their group of students during 1 weekend.
What do you think of this idea? Does anybody have practical ideas on
how to make this a success?
Cheers,
Kristof
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on the 27th of March I'm having my first Drupal introduction class for
this semester here at the unie. We'll have approximately 15-25
students (it's a extra course, some students don't show up).
We'll have 6 people with Drupal experience mentoring them. We did a
low level check on the students so most of them know some PHP, HTML
and CSS, and we give them a basic introduction into Drupal on 27/3 and
3/4.
These students have to do a Drupal web development project to get
their credits, so I was thinking that at least part of them we could
have working on a couple of first iterations for the Drupal Dojo. Not
all of us would be working on the Dojo, but I can imagine 2-4 groups
doing consecutive SCRUM iterations (maybe on 3 consecutive weekends).
We could work from the spec at
http://groups.drupal.org/open-learning-and-collaboration-portal
The mentors probably could function as SCRUM masters, and maybe come
together with their group of students during 1 weekend.
What do you think of this idea? Does anybody have practical ideas on
how to make this a success?
Cheers,
Kristof
*****************************
I blog at http://www.pronovix.com/blog
Twitter at http://twitter.com/kvantomme
You can find my profiles on
LinkedIn at http://www.linkedin.com/in/kvantomme
XING at https://www.xing.com/profile/Kristof_VanTomme
and Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/people/Kristof-Van-Tomme/618847872
Hi,
I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives complimentary
to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give you some
background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of them -
http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
(http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create something
modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official channels
(g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together, and it
would great to combine forces build something that would be very valuable to
the community.
Come join the fun!
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
--I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives complimentary
to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give you some
background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of them -
http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
(http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create something
modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official channels
(g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together, and it
would great to combine forces build something that would be very valuable to
the community.
Come join the fun!
Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late at
night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
--thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late at
night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
Hi George,
I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
the bookmarks.
What about
-multi-lingual resources?
-my offer to help?
-There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the next
European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
Paris wins).
-I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
Cheers,
Kristof
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
--I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
the bookmarks.
What about
-multi-lingual resources?
-my offer to help?
-There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the next
European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
Paris wins).
-I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
Cheers,
Kristof
Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption. That's why
I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though) to
allow the site to grow.
Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that was the
forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks! maybe it
would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway to track
the comments on the original site...
Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would assume
as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio, or
kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different explanations of
a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they favour one
particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for videos.
After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly) how to
create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed off
with
it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them off for
the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better vids, which
they'd be feeding directly to the site.
I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under cck
wouldn't turn me on.
in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk of
being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these two.
Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting resources to
the site - so constructive criticism should be given where necessary.
On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and start
with
the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
Any other ideas/suggestions?
--
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
--I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though) to
allow the site to grow.
Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that was the
forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks! maybe it
would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway to track
the comments on the original site...
Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would assume
as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio, or
kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different explanations of
a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they favour one
particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for videos.
After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly) how to
create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed off
with
it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them off for
the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better vids, which
they'd be feeding directly to the site.
I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under cck
wouldn't turn me on.
in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk of
being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these two.
Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting resources to
the site - so constructive criticism should be given where necessary.
On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and start
with
the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
Any other ideas/suggestions?
--
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/