Redesign discussion from docs point of view

[Hilde Austlid]

Hi!
There are a lot of interesting discussions going on right now about
the redesign of drupal.org. I'd like to do some brainstorming on the
redesign from a docs point of view: What do the doc team want from the
redesign? Do we want docs.drupal.org as a separate site? New
functionality? New ideas for navigation? What works well and
not-so-well in the current docs?

This discussion should be in a place where it's easy to find both for
doc team members and for the people doing the redesign. I suggest that
a discussion is started and cross posted in
http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-org-redesign-analysis and
http://groups.drupal.org/documentation-team. If we keep such
discussions on the mailing list, it's much harder to find and follow
for others.

Hilde
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[Nathaniel Catchpole]

I think the redesign group is the best place for this to happen - where
documentation fits into everything else, affects everything else as much as
it affects documentation :)

There's also a couple of discussions which include documentation on there
already from earlier this year: http://groups.drupal.org/node/10223 and
http://groups.drupal.org/node/10003 - might worth looking at for people who
haven't already seen them.

Nat

Post by Hilde Austlid
Hi!
There are a lot of interesting discussions going on right now about
the redesign of drupal.org. I'd like to do some brainstorming on the
redesign from a docs point of view: What do the doc team want from the
redesign? Do we want docs.drupal.org as a separate site? New
functionality? New ideas for navigation? What works well and
not-so-well in the current docs?
This discussion should be in a place where it's easy to find both for
doc team members and for the people doing the redesign. I suggest that
a discussion is started and cross posted in
http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-org-redesign-analysis and
http://groups.drupal.org/documentation-team. If we keep such
discussions on the mailing list, it's much harder to find and follow
for others.
Hilde
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[Addison Berry]

Yeah, I've been thinking about the best way to sort of consolidate
"docs" redesign ideas. I definitely agree that trying to keep it on
the list is too limiting. Everyone should definitely check out the
threads that catch pointed to, but I'd also like to try to have a more
distilled brainstorm list like Hilde is shooting for I think. Perhaps
we should create a doc-specific wiki page on the redesign group (which
is easy to cross-post to the docs list)? Or should we have a
discussion (like revive http://groups.drupal.org/node/10223) and then
distill that conversation into a list that can be posted?

We should also take part directly in the open redesign discussion that
is happening more than anything. Things like the discussion of a
separate site are already happening (http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-one-site-or-many/
) and folks can (should) give direct feedback.

Also, I would really, really encourage folks to work up some
wireframes around the handbook (http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/
), especially ones that include new feature ideas. Things like
versioning the docs (how would that look in order to use it?) and how
to add more prominent info on what you can and cannot do a page ("how
to make this page better!" or whatnot.)

- Addi (add1sun)

Post by Nathaniel Catchpole
I think the redesign group is the best place for this to happen -
where documentation fits into everything else, affects everything
else as much as it affects documentation :)
There's also a couple of discussions which include documentation on
there already from earlier this year: http://groups.drupal.org/node/10223
and http://groups.drupal.org/node/10003 - might worth looking at
for people who haven't already seen them.
Nat
Hi!
There are a lot of interesting discussions going on right now about
the redesign of drupal.org. I'd like to do some brainstorming on the
redesign from a docs point of view: What do the doc team want from the
redesign? Do we want docs.drupal.org as a separate site? New
functionality? New ideas for navigation? What works well and
not-so-well in the current docs?
This discussion should be in a place where it's easy to find both for
doc team members and for the people doing the redesign. I suggest that
a discussion is started and cross posted in
http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-org-redesign-analysis and
http://groups.drupal.org/documentation-team. If we keep such
discussions on the mailing list, it's much harder to find and follow
for others.
Hilde
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[Hilde Austlid]

Hi!

Perhaps we should create a
doc-specific wiki page on the redesign group (which is easy to cross-post to
the docs list)? Or should we have a discussion (like
revive http://groups.drupal.org/node/10223) and then distill that
conversation into a list that can be posted?

I think a discussion is better for brainstorming. From the wikis I've
started, I get the feeling that people are a lot more reluctant to
edit a wiki than to add a comment.

Also, I would really, really encourage folks to work up some wireframes
around the handbook
(http://www.disambiguity.com/drupalorg-come-wireframe-with-me/), especially
ones that include new feature ideas.

Very good point! I've thought a bit about navigation and about
multilanguage handbooks, I'll try to get some wireframes done this
weekend.

Hilde
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